Comments on: Mishmash http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/01/mishmash/ A Guide to Mestizo Shamanism in the Upper Amazon Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:33:35 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Harold http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/01/mishmash/comment-page-1/#comment-5303 Harold Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:55:38 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/01/mishmash/#comment-5303 Please google Dhyani Ywahoo fraud and you will see numerous websites that expose her as a fraud. Check www.infinitenetworks.com and see a 10 part series that expose Diane Fisher aka Dhyani Ywahoo as a fraud. See what the State of Vermont and two Federally recognized Cherokee Bands state about her and her claims of being a Cherokee and the Chief of the Green Mountain Band of the Eastern Cherokee. Harold Please google Dhyani Ywahoo fraud and you will see numerous websites that expose her as a fraud.

Check http://www.infinitenetworks.com and see a 10 part series that expose Diane Fisher aka Dhyani Ywahoo as a fraud. See what the State of Vermont and two Federally recognized Cherokee Bands state about her and her claims of being a Cherokee and the Chief of the Green Mountain Band of the Eastern Cherokee.

Harold

]]> By: Chuntaro's Corner http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/01/mishmash/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Chuntaro's Corner Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:20:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/01/mishmash/#comment-47 It is obvious that in the search of a spiritual identity people use what is at hand. People start attending ceremonies and fail to take the time to learn the cultural component of that culture. The results are ceremonies where everything goes, thanks to the lack of preparation of the person running them and those attending. The lack of acknowledgment and respect to the different indigenous traditions have been disastrous. One finds very flamboyant feather covered people that think that they know all about indigenous ceremonies or that there's only one indigenous tradition. This doesn't mean that people should not be welcomed into ceremonies, but that if one is to go to a Lakota ceremony that person is to act according to that nation's protocol, and that the protocol would change if one goes to an Anashinabe, Nahuatl or Mapuche ceremony. One of the best and the worse things to happen in the US is the availability of ceremonies and the very loose intertribal gatherings. Few communities with a handful of very skilled elders have been able to adopt various ceremonies and perform them with the care and protocol of the nations that were the original keepers. Sadly nowadays people think that in order to follow native traditions people have to be vision questers, sundancers, carry a pipe, go to NAC meetings, drink Ayahuasca, sweat at the lodge, participate in Ghost Dances, carry a Mesa etc. It is awesome to be exposed to such indigenous richness, but if people do not take the time to learn what is behind of each of these ceremonies and the original peoples that practice them, then we are just shallow spiritual tourists that do not honor or want to do the hard work that is part of any kind of spirituality. <br/>It also saddens me that people in the southern part of the continent are more willing to rescue the northern tribes spirituality that to focus on the cultural richness of their own indigenous nations. The next time someone takes out a Cofan headdress in the middle of a pipe ceremony and starts singing NAC songs that person should be held accountable and reminded of the kind of ceremony at hand. It is obvious that in the search of a spiritual identity people use what is at hand. People start attending ceremonies and fail to take the time to learn the cultural component of that culture. The results are ceremonies where everything goes, thanks to the lack of preparation of the person running them and those attending. The lack of acknowledgment and respect to the different indigenous traditions have been disastrous. One finds very flamboyant feather covered people that think that they know all about indigenous ceremonies or that there’s only one indigenous tradition. This doesn’t mean that people should not be welcomed into ceremonies, but that if one is to go to a Lakota ceremony that person is to act according to that nation’s protocol, and that the protocol would change if one goes to an Anashinabe, Nahuatl or Mapuche ceremony. One of the best and the worse things to happen in the US is the availability of ceremonies and the very loose intertribal gatherings. Few communities with a handful of very skilled elders have been able to adopt various ceremonies and perform them with the care and protocol of the nations that were the original keepers. Sadly nowadays people think that in order to follow native traditions people have to be vision questers, sundancers, carry a pipe, go to NAC meetings, drink Ayahuasca, sweat at the lodge, participate in Ghost Dances, carry a Mesa etc. It is awesome to be exposed to such indigenous richness, but if people do not take the time to learn what is behind of each of these ceremonies and the original peoples that practice them, then we are just shallow spiritual tourists that do not honor or want to do the hard work that is part of any kind of spirituality.
It also saddens me that people in the southern part of the continent are more willing to rescue the northern tribes spirituality that to focus on the cultural richness of their own indigenous nations. The next time someone takes out a Cofan headdress in the middle of a pipe ceremony and starts singing NAC songs that person should be held accountable and reminded of the kind of ceremony at hand.

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