Comments on: Visionary Information http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/ A Guide to Mestizo Shamanism in the Upper Amazon Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:12:21 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Steve Beyer http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Steve Beyer Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/#comment-440 You're very welcome. You’re very welcome.

]]> By: Teleterkji http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/comment-page-1/#comment-439 Teleterkji Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:19:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/#comment-439 Much pleased am i to read about ayahuasca.<br />Because i have been using psilocybine mushrooms<br />for many years,and have come to know the wisdom of the amazonian shamans a highly valuable one<br />in the integration my understanding of the shamanic use.<br />Mushrooms have shown me my inner potential to be who i am beyond self programmed fears.<br />That is like having ones path enlightened from above and below.<br />The truth shall set us free.<br /><br />Thank you very much<br /><br />plants. Much pleased am i to read about ayahuasca.
Because i have been using psilocybine mushrooms
for many years,and have come to know the wisdom of the amazonian shamans a highly valuable one
in the integration my understanding of the shamanic use.
Mushrooms have shown me my inner potential to be who i am beyond self programmed fears.
That is like having ones path enlightened from above and below.
The truth shall set us free.

Thank you very much

plants.

]]> By: Steve Beyer http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/comment-page-1/#comment-415 Steve Beyer Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:22:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/#comment-415 I agree that some <em>gringos</em> seek to use the medicine to heal their troubles — often self-inflicted — without doing any actual work. <br/><br/>My older brother Chuntaro, in one of his comments, says that people who think that just the ceremony and the medicine will heal their emotional, relationship, and psychological issues, without any work on their part, are not being honest with themselves, and are just looking for an excuse to not get better. That sounds right to me.<br/><br/>Still, I was told that there is nothing wrong with seeking to <em>learn the medicine</em> — trying to deepen a relationship with <em>la diosa</em> and the other sacred and healing plants, by sitting in their company and letting them teach what they will. I agree that some gringos seek to use the medicine to heal their troubles — often self-inflicted — without doing any actual work.

My older brother Chuntaro, in one of his comments, says that people who think that just the ceremony and the medicine will heal their emotional, relationship, and psychological issues, without any work on their part, are not being honest with themselves, and are just looking for an excuse to not get better. That sounds right to me.

Still, I was told that there is nothing wrong with seeking to learn the medicine — trying to deepen a relationship with la diosa and the other sacred and healing plants, by sitting in their company and letting them teach what they will.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/comment-page-1/#comment-411 Anonymous Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:35:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2008/03/visionary-information/#comment-411 I think what you have written here is tremendous. As momentum builds in our western culture to seek out these substances and ceremonies, it often seems to me that we simply often want the ayahuasca itself without the understanding of its traditional use. Somewhat arrogant I think as these people have been using it for thousands of years and westerners in force since when? Burroughs in the Yage letters? I myself want ot try this substance for what may be the "wrong reasons". Am I acutely ill? No. Do I need any specific information? not thatI can think of. In my heart of hearts, I sometimes view entheogens as magic bullets, or hope that they will be such to counteract what I can only describe as a western cultural isolating malaise. But I also know that there is no substitute for actual work. I think what you have written here is tremendous. As momentum builds in our western culture to seek out these substances and ceremonies, it often seems to me that we simply often want the ayahuasca itself without the understanding of its traditional use. Somewhat arrogant I think as these people have been using it for thousands of years and westerners in force since when? Burroughs in the Yage letters? I myself want ot try this substance for what may be the “wrong reasons”. Am I acutely ill? No. Do I need any specific information? not thatI can think of. In my heart of hearts, I sometimes view entheogens as magic bullets, or hope that they will be such to counteract what I can only describe as a western cultural isolating malaise. But I also know that there is no substitute for actual work.

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