Comments on: Jaguar on Ayahuasca http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/ A Guide to Mestizo Shamanism in the Upper Amazon Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:09:36 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Steve Beyer http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/comment-page-1/#comment-355 Steve Beyer Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:57:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/#comment-355 Kaith, I am delighted to hear from you. I think you are right: the clip <em>could</em> have been shot in the wild. I did not go back and check — believe me, I am tired of watching the damn thing — but I am surprised at the absence of any long shots. And I'll tell you, I would not get that close to the eyeball of any critter in the wild who is stronger, faster, and meaner than I am, whose method of predation is crushing skulls in its jaws, and who packs sixteen razor-sharp knives. :-) Kaith, I am delighted to hear from you. I think you are right: the clip could have been shot in the wild. I did not go back and check — believe me, I am tired of watching the damn thing — but I am surprised at the absence of any long shots. And I'll tell you, I would not get that close to the eyeball of any critter in the wild who is stronger, faster, and meaner than I am, whose method of predation is crushing skulls in its jaws, and who packs sixteen razor-sharp knives. :-)

]]> By: Keith http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/comment-page-1/#comment-354 Keith Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:41:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/#comment-354 I think you are correct that the clip itself doesn't really prove anything, or demonstrate truthfully that the jaguar ate aya leaves and is hallucinating. I do however (being a filmmaker and editor), believe that this could have been shot in the wild. The crew could have set up several cameras in blinds close to the animals tracking paths, that part is definitely possible. Then again, they might have set up the leaf chewing part. Ahh, television. I think you are correct that the clip itself doesn’t really prove anything, or demonstrate truthfully that the jaguar ate aya leaves and is hallucinating. I do however (being a filmmaker and editor), believe that this could have been shot in the wild. The crew could have set up several cameras in blinds close to the animals tracking paths, that part is definitely possible. Then again, they might have set up the leaf chewing part. Ahh, television.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Anonymous Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:26:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/#comment-290 it was jaguar (sacred power animal) lead shaman to the power plant admixture, b. caapi. in the first place.<br/><br/>shaman was out there, tripping in the jungle on p. viridis (the light(DMT)) his known plant ally. he was lead by his ally through the jungle to stupefied jaguar chewing on b. caapi(the force(MAOI)) finding the invitation by jaguar to a nibble on sacred jaguar power god medicine himself, he brings the knowledge of jaguar back to the people. it was jaguar (sacred power animal) lead shaman to the power plant admixture, b. caapi. in the first place.

shaman was out there, tripping in the jungle on p. viridis (the light(DMT)) his known plant ally. he was lead by his ally through the jungle to stupefied jaguar chewing on b. caapi(the force(MAOI)) finding the invitation by jaguar to a nibble on sacred jaguar power god medicine himself, he brings the knowledge of jaguar back to the people.

]]> By: Fred Smith http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/comment-page-1/#comment-286 Fred Smith Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:00:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/jaguar-on-ayahuasca/#comment-286 Steve, I've been up close and personal with a leopard. therefore, when I watched this video I thought I'm really f#$%ing glad I was not the one holding that camera. I know someone who did an intricate study of tigers in the Corbett National Park in India, including a precise head count (214, as I recall). She had about 250 cameras set up in various places, that were triggered remotely from a console when they sensed tigers approaching. Perhaps some sort of equivalent technology was used here. But, given the ignorance of the narrator, I think it might have been done in a park or a zoo. I agree with you that something is missing in this repport... Fred Steve, I’ve been up close and personal with a leopard. therefore, when I watched this video I thought I’m really f#$%ing glad I was not the one holding that camera. I know someone who did an intricate study of tigers in the Corbett National Park in India, including a precise head count (214, as I recall). She had about 250 cameras set up in various places, that were triggered remotely from a console when they sensed tigers approaching. Perhaps some sort of equivalent technology was used here. But, given the ignorance of the narrator, I think it might have been done in a park or a zoo. I agree with you that something is missing in this repport… Fred

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