Comments on: Two Songs of My Teacher http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/ A Guide to Mestizo Shamanism in the Upper Amazon Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:33:35 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Filippa Freed http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-16569 Filippa Freed Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:07:40 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-16569 Also, would you say the icaros differ much between shamans? If they come from the plant, are they similar or even the same for all? Or does the relationship between shaman and plant determine the variation of the icaro? A personal touch? Ayahuasca singing the same song to all? I find this all fascinating! Also, would you say the icaros differ much between shamans? If they come from the plant, are they similar or even the same for all? Or does the relationship between shaman and plant determine the variation of the icaro? A personal touch? Ayahuasca singing the same song to all? I find this all fascinating!

]]> By: Filippa Freed http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-16568 Filippa Freed Wed, 08 Jun 2011 22:00:38 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-16568 How wonderful to again hear Don Robertos voice and his icaros still go straight into my body. And how wonderful also to realize he continues to sing Dona Marias icaros in ceremony still, one of the more intense during my first ceremony. I will be sure to get a copy of your book, it will take me back to the jungle and to Spirit Quest. I am working with plants now here in Sweden, slowly learning and listening! May many read and learn from this! How wonderful to again hear Don Robertos voice and his icaros still go straight into my body. And how wonderful also to realize he continues to sing Dona Marias icaros in ceremony still, one of the more intense during my first ceremony. I will be sure to get a copy of your book, it will take me back to the jungle and to Spirit Quest. I am working with plants now here in Sweden, slowly learning and listening! May many read and learn from this!

]]> By: Cheveyo http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-4368 Cheveyo Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:08:27 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-4368 Hey my brothers and sisters, I was wondering if the icaro's of these two great shamans are somewhere for sale in a higher quality? I just love to learn more about Dona Maria's icaro's. Hey my brothers and sisters,
I was wondering if the icaro’s of these two great shamans are somewhere for sale in a higher quality? I just love to learn more about Dona Maria’s icaro’s.

]]> By: Lubo Nenov http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-1007 Lubo Nenov Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:59:19 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-1007 my all time favourite from Dona Maria L. T. Flores is medicina medicina ..... esta noche esta nocheee, i love this icaro even my wife and my son sing it ! I am still shocked about the fact that she fell victim of evil sorcery, as I read your article some time ago I asked myself, how could this possibly be, why did nothing protect her, where was her master and so on and so on. Such a pity , but then I believe now she resides in one of the heavens may be trying to help from there in another way! my all time favourite from Dona Maria L. T. Flores is medicina medicina ….. esta noche esta nocheee, i love this icaro even my wife and my son sing it ! I am still shocked about the fact that she fell victim of evil sorcery, as I read your article some time ago I asked myself, how could this possibly be, why did nothing protect her, where was her master and so on and so on. Such a pity , but then I believe now she resides in one of the heavens may be trying to help from there in another way!

]]> By: Amanda E. http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Amanda E. Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:54:17 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-488 Interesting that you would note sorcery, wondering though as naive traveller, how would i know the difference, for doing a ceremony w/ Ayahuasca. Like what if it ends up being with one of those vengeful types you speak of? I have also experienced in a trusting circle seeing mother Mary. I saw glimpses of the saint with a royal blue cape that had stars. Interesting that you would note sorcery, wondering though as naive traveller, how would i know the difference, for doing a ceremony w/ Ayahuasca. Like what if it ends up being with one of those vengeful types you speak of? I have also experienced in a trusting circle seeing mother Mary. I saw glimpses of the saint with a royal blue cape that had stars.

]]> By: Steve Beyer http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-271 Steve Beyer Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:58:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-271 QuantumLife, send me a comment with your email address. I will not publish the comment, but I will know how to get in touch with you. <br/><br/>I really appreciate your comment about the inevitable disappointment that follows idealizing shamanic practitioners — <a HREF="http://singingtotheplants.blogspot.com/2007/11/shamans-and-yogis-almost-forty-years_25.html" REL="nofollow">confusing spirit with soul</a>. QuantumLife, send me a comment with your email address. I will not publish the comment, but I will know how to get in touch with you.

I really appreciate your comment about the inevitable disappointment that follows idealizing shamanic practitioners — confusing spirit with soul.

]]> By: QUANTUMLIFE http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-270 QUANTUMLIFE Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:05:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-270 Hi Steve, <br/><br/>Thanks for your continuing elucidation of the paradoxical nature of the art of Curanderismo. The notion of Curanderos and Curanderas as "enlightened" beings persists in Western minds, and leads to much disappointment and the projections which inevitably arise when pedestals are dismantled. <br/><br/>I am currently producing a documentary for Australian ABC Radio National on Icaros, and would like some more source material from women. Do you own the copyright [ludicrous notion I realise, but such are the ways of corporate media] for those recordings, and would you be interested in sharing them if so? Hi Steve,

Thanks for your continuing elucidation of the paradoxical nature of the art of Curanderismo. The notion of Curanderos and Curanderas as “enlightened” beings persists in Western minds, and leads to much disappointment and the projections which inevitably arise when pedestals are dismantled.

I am currently producing a documentary for Australian ABC Radio National on Icaros, and would like some more source material from women. Do you own the copyright [ludicrous notion I realise, but such are the ways of corporate media] for those recordings, and would you be interested in sharing them if so?

]]> By: Steve Beyer http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-268 Steve Beyer Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:50:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-268 Miroslov, thank you for your comment. I wrote a little bit about Jacques Mabit and his work <a HREF="http://singingtotheplants.blogspot.com/2009/01/jacques-mabit-we-spoke-here-briefly.html" REL="nofollow">here</a>. Your comment also prompted me to visit your <a HREF="http://miraloro.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">blog</a> and its announcement of the <a HREF="http://www.takiwasi.com/congreso2009/" REL="nofollow">International Conference on Traditional Medicines, Interculturality and Mental Health</a> to be held in Tarapoto from June 7 to 10, 2009. I will be sure to mention the conference in a future blog post.<br/><br/>I am glad you are enjoying the blog. Please feel free to wander around, leave comments, and subscribe if you wish. I am very happy to make your acquaintance. Miroslov, thank you for your comment. I wrote a little bit about Jacques Mabit and his work here. Your comment also prompted me to visit your blog and its announcement of the International Conference on Traditional Medicines, Interculturality and Mental Health to be held in Tarapoto from June 7 to 10, 2009. I will be sure to mention the conference in a future blog post.

I am glad you are enjoying the blog. Please feel free to wander around, leave comments, and subscribe if you wish. I am very happy to make your acquaintance.

]]> By: Miroslav Horak http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Miroslav Horak Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:11:00 +0000 http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2009/02/two-songs-of-my-teacher/#comment-267 Listening to the first healing song I recognize one icaro of Sr. Jacques Mabit from the Takiwasi Centre. His song is a little bit slower but same in the melody and positive appearence. Love it! Listening to the first healing song I recognize one icaro of Sr. Jacques Mabit from the Takiwasi Centre. His song is a little bit slower but same in the melody and positive appearence. Love it!

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